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00:36:05 [Speaker Changed] So privateequityfirms tend to come in and take over running these companies. 00:45:53 [Speaker Changed] So where does your dealflow come from? They, they manage them, not what you guys do. It sounds like very competitive space.
You had a lot of the big buyout firms, they were doing the transactions in the ‘80s, in the early ‘90s. But, you know, these large firms were spinning off smaller privateequityfirms. And they were doing mid-sized deals. KENCEL: — as an equity partner, right? Private debt AUM has grown to $1.3
So control large scale privateequity is part of it; U.S., Europe, Asia is part of it; Tactical Opportunities, more hybrid equity, part of it; life sciences growth, part of it; secondaries, infrastructure, some opportunistic credit. I would just frame this by saying, we set up our data science business back in 2015.
Right now, spreads and terms on new dealflow appear attractive, so lenders are being disciplined for the most part. Also, supply is cyclical and there will come a point where the bid-ask spread narrows and PE firms start to transact again.
I had him on the show in 2015 and the thing that was so astonishing, 17.8% I mean, if you’re buying debt in, in, you name it company at 20 cents to 60 cents, and they’re owned by, you know, marquee privateequityfirms, what’s gonna happen with that? Just an incredible run.
We held our team together throughout the downturn to be able to capture dealflow when markets returned and our investment sales team's efforts in the back half of 2024 were fantastic and set us up very well for 2025 and beyond. Walker -- Chairman and Chief Executive Officer It was standard dealflow.
Just a few years ago, investor confidence was rocked by the collapse of Abraaj Group, once the Gulfs leading privateequityfirm. Governments across the region are also launching large-scale privatisation initiatives, offering fresh dealflow for PE investors. You dont find that anywhere else.
I have personally been active in this field since 2015. There's also a variable around the sort of the level of dealflow a year ago and the benefit that comes from buying those funds at a discount to the fund returns in the short term. But long term, overall, it is an outstanding track record.
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